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Sermon #3222

Holy God; Fallen Man

A Sermon on Romans 9:19-24

Originally preached Feb. 8, 1963

Scripture

Romans 9:19-24 ESV KJV
You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over …

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Sermon Description

Who is really in charge? Is a person free to do whatever they want? Is God really guiding everything to happen the way He wants? How can one understand the sovereignty of God and the responsibility of humanity? Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones sheds some much needed light on this difficult subject as he preaches this sermon on Romans 9:19–24 titled “Holy God, Fallen Man.” The apostle Paul warns creation not to fight against the one who has both the authority and ability to exercise His power. In the same way that a potter has the right over the clay, God has the right to do what He desires. He alone decides what to make from the same raw materials, each person for a different purpose. Just as He chose to make both Jacob and Esau, He also chose to love Jacob and hate Esau. However, as Dr. Lloyd-Jones explains, God never created anything evil nor forces anyone to sin, as he quotes from James 1. But because of Adam’s choice to sin, human nature is fallen and sin is an instinct. So who then is responsible for salvation? The world offers hopeless, fatalistic answers that are contingent on heritage, context, and childhood experiences. While God is responsible for salvation, people remain responsible for their damnation. God offers hope since He sets His claim on His people and gives them His mercy in salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ as the sin payment.

Sermon Breakdown

  1. The apostle Paul is dealing with objections to the doctrine of God's sovereign election and reprobation as taught in Romans 9:6-13.
  2. The objection in verse 19 is: Why does God still find fault with people if no one can resist His will?
  3. Paul rebukes the objector in verse 20a: "But who are you, O man, to talk back to God?" He says it is absurd and blasphemous for a mere human to contend with God.
  4. In verse 20b-21, Paul asserts God's absolute right as the Potter to do as He wills with the clay (fallen humanity). God has the right to make some vessels for honor (salvation) and some for dishonor (damnation).
  5. The lump of clay refers to fallen humanity under condemnation for sin. God as the Potter has the right to make some vessels from this lump for honor (salvation) and some for dishonor (damnation).
  6. No one deserves mercy or salvation. All deserve damnation. If God chooses to save some, He has the right to do so. If He chooses to harden others, He also has the right to do so.
  7. The ultimate reason why God chooses to save some and not others is a mystery. We cannot question God's justice or right to do as He chooses with fallen humanity.
  8. If someone is saved, it is solely by God's mercy and grace. If someone is damned, it is solely their own fault for sinning against God. But no one has free will - all are enslaved to sin apart from God's grace.
  9. Those who reject God's sovereign election and reprobation have no better solution. They either believe in blind chance, fate, or determinism which also denies free will. Or they believe in "free will" but cannot explain why some believe and others don't.

Sermon Q&A

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones on Romans 9: Questions About Divine Sovereignty

What is the main objection being addressed in Romans 9:19-24?

According to Dr. Lloyd-Jones, the objection in verse 19 is essentially: "If God is sovereign and determines who receives mercy and who is hardened, then why does He still find fault with people? After all, who can resist His will?" This objection arose after Paul had explained God's dealings with Pharaoh, saying "He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He will He hardens."

How does Dr. Lloyd-Jones explain the rebuke in Romans 9:20?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones explains that Paul's response "O man, who are you to reply against God?" is not saying we should never ask questions, but rather that we should never contend with the plain teaching of God's Word. He emphasizes the sarcasm in Paul's reply, highlighting the vast contrast between man and God. We can express difficulties when approaching Scripture, but must never argue with God or suggest He is unrighteous.

What does the potter and clay illustration teach about God's relationship to humanity?

The potter and clay illustration teaches that God has sovereign authority over fallen humanity. Dr. Lloyd-Jones emphasizes that Paul is not talking about creation but about God's dealings with already fallen humanity. The clay represents sinful humanity that already deserves condemnation, and God has the right to make "one vessel for honor and another for dishonor" from this same lump of fallen clay.

Does Romans 9 teach that God created some people for damnation?

No, Dr. Lloyd-Jones strongly rejects this interpretation. He states: "He does not say that God has created some people to honor and some to dishonor." Instead, he emphasizes that Paul is addressing what God does with humanity after the Fall, not at creation. "What the apostle is dealing with here is what God does with fallen men and women," not how God originally created them. At creation, all was made "good."

What is Dr. Lloyd-Jones' understanding of election and human responsibility?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones presents this balanced view: "If any man is saved, it is entirely because of the mercy and the choice of God... If a man is lost, it is entirely his own responsibility." He explains that all deserve condemnation because of sin, both inherited from Adam and personally committed. No one deserves mercy, so God has the right to save some while allowing others to receive the judgment they deserve.

How does Dr. Lloyd-Jones address the concept of free will?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones argues that "there is no such thing as free will in fallen man." He contrasts the biblical view with other deterministic theories (contingency, necessity, biological determinism, Freudian psychology) to show that everyone acknowledges human will is influenced by factors beyond our control. The only person who ever had true free will was Adam before the Fall. The question is not whether we have free will, but what determines our choices.

Why do some people believe the gospel while others reject it?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones tackles this mystery by showing that merely appealing to human choice doesn't solve the problem. If we say "one chooses to believe, the other chooses not to believe," we must still ask what causes one person to choose differently than another. He argues that ultimately this comes down to either God's sovereign purpose or "pure accident" based on factors beyond our control like biology or upbringing.

What scriptures does Paul quote in his potter and clay illustration?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones points out that Paul is not inventing this illustration but drawing from Old Testament passages including Isaiah 45:9-11, Isaiah 64:8, and Jeremiah 18:3-6. These passages establish the biblical foundation for understanding God's sovereign right over His creation, particularly in His dealings with Israel.

What attitude does Dr. Lloyd-Jones encourage when approaching difficult doctrines?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones emphasizes the importance of approaching difficult doctrines with humility: "If you cannot discuss a passage like this in a calm, collected, reasonable, humble spirit, you have no right to look at it at all, and you will certainly never understand it." He condemns the way many have argued over these doctrines with bitterness and party spirit throughout church history.

How does Dr. Lloyd-Jones distinguish between creation and God's forming of vessels?

Dr. Lloyd-Jones makes a crucial distinction between creation (making something out of nothing) and God's forming of vessels from already existing clay. He notes that Paul deliberately uses the language of "forming" rather than "creating," and speaks of a "lump" of clay that already exists. This helps us understand that Paul is addressing God's dealings with humanity after the Fall, not God's original creative purpose.

The Book of Romans

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones (1899-1981) was a Welsh evangelical minister who preached and taught in the Reformed tradition. His principal ministry was at Westminster Chapel, in central London, from 1939-1968, where he delivered multi-year expositions on books of the bible such as Romans, Ephesians and the Gospel of John. In addition to the MLJ Trust’s collection of 1,600 of these sermons in audio format, most of these great sermon series are available in book form (including a 14 volume collection of the Romans sermons), as are other series such as "Spiritual Depression", "Studies in the Sermon on the Mount" and "Great Biblical Doctrines". He is considered by many evangelical leaders today to be an authority on biblical truth and the sufficiency of Scripture.